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MessagePosté le: 23/11/2015 00:01    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Very nice work, I like very much your model.


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Rien de ce qui est fini n'est jamais achevé tant que tout ce qui est commencé n'est pas totalement terminé (Pierre Dac)
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MessagePosté le: 24/11/2015 08:18    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Bonjour,

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MessagePosté le: 24/11/2015 21:57    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Bravo for these mounting tips, I continue to follow your building with great interest [clap] [clap]

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MessagePosté le: 28/11/2015 12:46    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Merci pour tous les encouragements!
The last week I tried to make the fairings between the wing and fuselage.
I wanted to make these out of veneer, because you can sand it and it keeps the same colour. I already had done the nose with that, but I ran into problems. I soaked the veneer in hot water





and dried it with a hairdryer. I glued these pieces on the balsa supporting structure. Well, that just didn't work javascript:emoticon('Sad') (no picture!) So I ripped it out and started over again. First I sanded a rebate in the balsa and then made a ply "underlay". Then I covered that part of the fuselage with ply, in which I left space for the veneer fairing.

I also discovered that the veneer expanded with about 10% when wetted,



so I dried the veneer in the oven.

Now I glued all the pieces in place.....

I didn't get it perfect, but its the best I could do.
Next is the frame and mold for the canopy.

This is an impression of the planned interior, the receiver battery fits between the front (coupling) and rear (elevator and rudder) servo mounts.
I had only a side view of the canopy'swo I had to make things just fit on the fuselage.









I had now the bottom of the canopy, took front and rear dimensions from the fuselage and with the dimensions of the side view I made a plan for the other franes of the canopy. Laminated the frames out of 0.6 ply, 3 mm wide strips.







, made rebates in the bottom frame



and glued it together.


To make the mold or plug I made a block balsa

drawed and sawed the bottom, glued copy's of the side views on it and made saw cuts on the frame markings.

From the canopy frame I copied in ply the frames and put them in the sawcuts (not as easy as I write!)



After some planing..



Still needs some more planing and sanding! To be continued!
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MessagePosté le: 03/12/2015 23:14    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Last week I did the rest of the covering of the fuselage with 0.6 ply. It found it sometimes quite difficult and a couple of times had had to redo a piece. ('[argh]')



. I also covered the visible part of the inside of the cockpit.





Slowly the fuselage took shape. Just behind the main frame there are inspection hatches in the real thing (it has a mechanism for aileron differential and raising and lowering both ailerons simultaniously). I wanted to make those hatches, but it is precisely at the spot you grab when you hand launch it , so I made a sandwich there.





You can see the hatches on the plans.









I am still not satisfied with the wing-fuselage fairing and I doubt if I wil redo that. ('Mad')
I have a question; on the next picture there is a white box behind the pilot (when he is in the plane) . It looks to me like a radio, but it is only a guess. Has anyone an idea what it is?


To be continued.
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MessagePosté le: 04/12/2015 05:50    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Je ne sais pas si ça ressemble au barographe qu'avait fait Eric?
regarde sa construction
http://www.retroplane.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=68783#68783



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MessagePosté le: 04/12/2015 09:49    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Peut etre vous avez raison, quand je regarde le photo encore une fois, c'est bien possible que ce truc blanc est plus en arriere et dans une coffre.
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MessagePosté le: 04/12/2015 12:42    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

« bocorvin » a écrit:
Peut etre vous avez raison, quand je regarde le photo encore une fois, c'est bien possible que ce truc blanc est plus en arriere et dans une coffre.


My compliments Vincent for this really nice job. I'm following your progress with interest.
Are that plans still available? I was always fascinated by the gorgeous silhouette of this glider but so far I only found a plan on eBay for a 4 meters model that is actually too big for me (and for the "health" my wedding too)...

Great job!
Let's us updated as usual.

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MessagePosté le: 04/12/2015 18:09    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Dear Alessandro,

Thanks for your interest, that encourages me!
The drawing I used for the Nemere scale 1 : 6 is an enlarged drawing scale 1 : 8.
I bought this ( 1: 8 ) drawing (together with a set of ribs and frames, but you can buy that seperately) from AR Flugmodele, costs €29.50 (ex postage) . The drawings were enlarged (by 33%) in a local copy shop. Beware!, these plans are made to cover the plane with 2mm balsa, so had to change a lot of things. (it is in the beginning of this article). On the pictures of making the frames, I use the original outline, but instead of 2mm balsa, (scaled op about 3mm), I put on girders and ply ( 3mm and 0.6), so the outside is about right.
If you want to know more of that, I'am happy to inform you.

Regards, Vincent
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« bocorvin » a écrit:
Dear Alessandro,

Thanks for your interest, that encourages me!
The drawing I used for the Nemere scale 1 : 6 is an enlarged drawing scale 1 : 8.
I bought this ( 1: 8 ) drawing (together with a set of ribs and frames, but you can buy that seperately) from AR Flugmodele, costs €29.50 (ex postage) . The drawings were enlarged (by 33%) in a local copy shop. Beware!, these plans are made to cover the plane with 2mm balsa, so had to change a lot of things. (it is in the beginning of this article). On the pictures of making the frames, I use the original outline, but instead of 2mm balsa, (scaled op about 3mm), I put on girders and ply ( 3mm and 0.6), so the outside is about right.
If you want to know more of that, I'am happy to inform you.

Regards, Vincent


Hello Vincent,

Many thanks for your indications. Unfortunately I absolutely don't speak German and I'll ask to some of my multi-language colleagues ;-)
I'm interested of 1:8 scale that is more suitable for the slope where I usually fly. Is the original plan designed to have a detachable elevator ?
No problem to make some modification. As far as I remember I never built a model without doing some modification :-)
In any case now I'm busy with the model for Retroplane 2017, so I don't think that I'll begin this model in a short time.

I'm continuing to follow your adventure.

Bye
Alex
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MessagePosté le: 05/12/2015 00:44    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Hello Alex,

Yes the model has an detachebel elevator.
On the website of AR flugmodelle are some pictures, so you can get an idea of what you get.
If you plan to build it I can send you some pictures of building mine and if you look at "atelier reparation" you will find the repair of my 1 : 8 Nemere .

Bye,
Vincent.
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MessagePosté le: 13/12/2015 20:49    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

To begin with, a photo of the assembled model



This was (of course also for fun) and to adjust the ribs at the root of the wing to check with the fuselage if there wasn't a gap. I had to correct a bit on one side.
I went on with the wings, made the tips and the aileron things, to close the gap between wing and aileron, it took some time...





and the result.


I slowly started with the ply covering of the wing, which I had never done [argh] First I did a lot of little things and then I made a beginning, the scarfs



Then the bending of the 0.6 mm ply, in the end I did it as you can seen on the pictures, using boiling water, when the water is that hot you feel the ply weakening instantly








I read a lot on the forum about covering the wings with ply, it is quite stressfull! I messed up some panels and came to the following method (it's almost the same as Eric Spore uses on his 1/4 Nemere) for exact location of the first side of gluing I used pins (yes it gives holes....)
Using thick cyano, glide the panel along the pins to its exact spot, after 10 seconds I remove the pins, turn the wing over (plastic under it..)



I bent it open, put glue under the ribs, leading edge and scarf joint and the upper girder, wrap the panel around the ribs and close it, I'am glad its done...




Next is putting the rest the ply on the wings and preparing the canopy mold.
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MessagePosté le: 27/12/2015 22:05    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I went on with the covering of the wing with ply. First the inner parts. The reinforcements on the rib at the root of the wing is to attach a hook which hold the wing in its place.





I had to incorporate the spoilers.



and check if they still worked (they did!)

Next I bent spruce around the tips and then covered them with ply.



. Now back to the fuselage, especially the wing fairing. I made it first with 0.6 mm veneer, but I didn't like the result, so I took the veneer out and started with ply.


Then there was someting wrong with the fairing on the trailing side of the wing. After a lot of thinking I hope I got it right now.

I had also used a too small radius for the fairing, so I took a bigger one and so I had to take out a strip of ply out of the fuselage [argh] Not a pleasant job hacking out ply! I prebent the wet ply

also with a bigger pipe (15mm dia) and let it dry overnight.











.
In the meantime and finished of the master for the canopy and had the canopy vacuumformed from 0.5 mm .


to be continued.
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MessagePosté le: 28/12/2015 00:00    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Very nice job. Congratulations for the farings, they look very beautiful.

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MessagePosté le: 28/12/2015 01:03    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Thank you! It was the third attempt..... : Mad
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