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bocorvin Maniaco Posteur


Inscrit le: 17 Aoû 2015

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Posté le: 05/02/2021 14:45 Sujet du message: |
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Bonjour a tous,
After that tricky first piece of sheeting, I went on with the top of the fuselage, which was still temporarily attached to the building jig. Scarfing the thin plywood is a time-consuming job, especially if the panels are not straight. I made up a few sanding tools in the hope that I would make fewer mistakes

 By the way, the self-adhesive sandpaper “easy-touch” is really great
A little more about this glue technique, I found info on Retroplane and also on SSUK.
After sanding and fitting, apply glue to

 and let it dry until it is no longer white. After drying I have repeated the process to get more glue thickness. The fit with the scarfed joints, which are also curved, is critical and I don't know if I can work accurately enough. Another problem was that the horizontal (longitudinal) seam was difficult to straighten, I found it difficult to get each panel exactly in place. I temporarily fixed with it clamps
 and glued it with a iron (middle position, 150gr). I decided to make the remaining panels a bit too long and later sand them to the correct length, with another sanding tool


 On the same picture the connection horizontal stabiler / fin is done . A picture of the top of the fuselage,


The fuselage is now stiff enough to remove it from the building jig.
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Sed Accro Posteur


Inscrit le: 13 Mai 2015

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Posté le: 05/02/2021 17:50 Sujet du message: |
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Bonjour Vincent,
Superbe ce fuselage, du très beau travail !
Je ferai peut-être un essai avec cette méthode de collage au fer, ça a l'air de bien fonctionner .
Bonne continuation.
 Serge |
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bocorvin Maniaco Posteur


Inscrit le: 17 Aoû 2015

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Posté le: 05/02/2021 19:27 Sujet du message: |
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Bonjour Sed,
Thanks for your nice comments
About the glueing technique; I find it hard to believe that it is as strong as thick cyano, but hopefully I am wrong!
After the panels are fixed, I put thick cyano on the inside, just to be sure. The glueing itself is much less hectic and that a big plus!
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patte de loup Incurable Posteur


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Posté le: 05/02/2021 20:24 Sujet du message: |
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nice job , Vince
Pat'
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texier Accro Posteur


Inscrit le: 02 Mar 2006

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Posté le: 09/02/2021 20:21 Sujet du message: |
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« bocorvin » a écrit: Bonjour Sed,
Thanks for your nice comments
About the glueing technique; I find it hard to believe that it is as strong as thick cyano, but hopefully I am wrong!
After the panels are fixed, I put thick cyano on the inside, just to be sure. The glueing itself is much less hectic and that a big plus!
Vincent (DB)
Hello Vincent,
Your work looks really fine I like it For those like me (and Sed may be) who never practiced the "iron glueing" (even if I was aware such process works) could you explain which kind of glue you use? wood glue "vinylique" ?
 Sylvain.
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bocorvin Maniaco Posteur


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bocorvin Maniaco Posteur


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Posté le: 10/02/2021 11:37 Sujet du message: |
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Hi Texier,
about the glue; I use ordinary PVA, I think that is the cheap white woodglue, indeed vinelique. In the tutorial he says at a certain moment that the heat activates the glue, so don't let it dry completely.
Bonjour a tous,
After the fuselage was detached from the construction setup, I decided to do the rc part first. It's tempting to continue building, but now everything is much more accessible. I had already more or less made the servo tray and the battery box. To be able to get the latter one out easily I made a kind of clip from 2 layers of 0.6 plywood and a short piece of spruce, which you can unlock with one finger
 . Next to the switch I placed the shottky diode, made two plugs for both receiver batteries and plugs for the lead to the receiver placed more to the rear of the fuselage.
 . I ran this wire between the inner and (not yet in place) outer skin
 . Behind the backrest of the pilot I made an “holder” for the receiver, antennas and space for the vario

 I had already made the servo tray, I had to glue 2mm extra strips under the rudder servo to make enough vertical space between the actuation cables and rods.
The elevator actuation works with a 1mm steel wire pull / push rod, in a double plastic guide

 To be able to mount and dismount the horizontal stabiler, I made the last 70mm of this rod hinged. I bent a very small eye in the 1mm rod, in which the pin of the quicklink fitted tightly. Just bend a slightly too big eye and carefully make it smaller with pliers until it fits exactly.

 I can lift that moveble part and then attach the other quicklink to the rudderhorn of the elevator. Then the whole stabiler can be lowered in place and the moveble part of the actuation rod comes “in line” and operates without any slop.
The rudder is operated with two pull / pull cables (20kg strong). They are attached to the rudderhorns of the rudder with self-locking steel wire hooks, so that the rudder can easily be disassembled for transport


The controls are moving nicely, now I can go on sheeting the fuselage
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de Schaetzen Harold Maniaco Posteur


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Posté le: 11/02/2021 12:23 Sujet du message: |
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Dear Vincent,
Congratulations for your "every day" new construction solution.
This time the connection with your horizontal stabiliser. Simple and easy!
Congratulation for your idea to hidden, in the cockpit, the electrical wiring between 2 panels. They are defintively glued?
I am waiting for your next building solution.
Best regards.
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bocorvin Maniaco Posteur


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Posté le: 11/02/2021 14:22 Sujet du message: |
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Dear Harold,
Glad you liked the idea of the horizontal stabilizer:D .
I had no intention glueing the wire between the in and outside of the nose of the fuselage. I can put the surplus of wire just in that space, always nice when a connector is broken or someting like that.
Best regards,
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sebastian92 Psycho Posteur


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Posté le: 11/02/2021 18:35 Sujet du message: |
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Hello Vincent,
always you have interesting solutions
a question : where do you find this so longers parts ?

I coud do it by myself… but if it's not too expensive…
you have an address ?
Continue like this 
 Pourvu que ça vole, roule, flotte… normalement j'ai tout bien fait pour !
Un bel avion est un avion qui vole bien ! Marcel Dassault
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Sebastian
Vends module émission 2.4 ghz pour Futaba, Hitec TZ-FM + 2 récepteurs corona 8 voies (contact en MP) |
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bocorvin Maniaco Posteur


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Posté le: 11/02/2021 19:00 Sujet du message: |
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Hi Sebastian,
Here is the link to the shop, in the Netherlands,
https://hobbyin.nl/
I try to find these items, put I couldn't find them. Its M2.
Tomorrow I have to order some things, I can ask if he still has them.
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sebastian92 Psycho Posteur


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Posté le: 11/02/2021 19:19 Sujet du message: |
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I don't find it too… perhaps out of sale ?
But I don't think they post to France… and they have no PayPal.
Don't bother with that, I'll make it with threaded rod, or turning it…
Many thanks ! 
 Pourvu que ça vole, roule, flotte… normalement j'ai tout bien fait pour !
Un bel avion est un avion qui vole bien ! Marcel Dassault
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Sebastian
Vends module émission 2.4 ghz pour Futaba, Hitec TZ-FM + 2 récepteurs corona 8 voies (contact en MP) |
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bocorvin Maniaco Posteur


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Posté le: 11/02/2021 19:42 Sujet du message: |
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I bought these for my FG-2, thats 4 years ago....
Maybe you can silver solder an eyelet to een piece of M2...
I'll ask hem tomorrow.
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VincentB Serial Posteur


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Posté le: 11/02/2021 19:50 Sujet du message: |
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Ca va très vite à fabriquer, je me les fait, tige filetée de 3mm, quelques coups de marteau sur le bout pour aplanir, et perçage... voir par exemple bas de page www.retroplane.net/bydgoszczanka/page1.htm
 Retroplane the World Touch - On the Web since 1854.
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ThomasF Incurable Posteur


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Posté le: 11/02/2021 20:48 Sujet du message: |
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Ich habe für den gleichen Zweck gekauft.

Gruß
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