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MessagePosté le: 13/10/2012 18:49    Sujet du message: Gluhareff S-22 - Tuomas Répondre en citant

Bonjour tout le monde!

I have been lurking these build threads for a while and I would like also to contribute something. This forum has been a sort of holy grail of wooden scale glider building and I have been waiting for suitable project to try my wings at this level. I will do my humble attempt of build logging in english, as my french is not good enough despite the fact that I have lived in Paris for an year. Also, you propably cannot understand finnish :).

Everything started in spring when I was browsing and checking some details at J2mcL planeurs. I searched planes designed in Finland where I live. One plane popped up and I thought that there is an error, this is not Finnish plane. Did then some googling and ... yes. It was designed in Finland, but it was so old that it has totally slipped my radar. Design year was 1921.

The story is about two russian emigrants living in Finland who wanted to fly sailplanes. Guy's were brothers, mr. Michael and Sergei Gluhareff. According newspaper article they were supposed to be ex-fighter pilots from Russian air forces (before 1921?!?). They were joined by third guy called Boris Adaridi, Russian descent, but Finnish citizen, son of famous army general.

They designed two sailplanes, M3 and Gluhareff S-22. Where S stands for Soarer. Logically.

Planes flew well, according some comments they made more than 100 flights. I am slightly sceptical as they used catapult to get to air... And they had only small slope (approx. 7-10m).

Nevertheless, planes flew and there are some pictures and even 3-view of S-22 published in book by Adaridi in 1925. Who then moved to France.

Pictures below, including 3-view. These are only existing pictures I have located.

Tuomas

References:
(great many thanks for www.flightforum.fi regulars for assisting me finding details)
http://www.j2mcl-planeurs.net/dbj2mcl/planeurs-machines/planeur-fiche_0int.php?code=2276
http://www.scalesoaring.co.uk/VINTAGE/Books/Langsdorf%20-%20Das%20Segelflugzeug.pdf (page 141)











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MessagePosté le: 13/10/2012 18:56    Sujet du message: Plans Répondre en citant

I designed this plane to be 1:3 scale with almost all the bells and whistles of original plane. One thing which I skipped (really... yes) was all-wing-flexible (flexible, spring loaded) TE capable moving 75mm up, that was just too extreme.

Anyway, interesting details include:
1. Ailerons are actually moving wingtips.
2. Elevator is all-moving, ie. it is pendel-elevator.
3. Fuselage is extremely short. According interview in Finnish Aero-magazine Gluhareff had concluded that shorter tail contributes to stability. Which is against current wisdom.
4. Ski's, altough I did not draw skis. Anyone can draw skis . There is support for them in place.

I am really, really sceptical whether this plane will be easy to fly. With those jazzy ailerons, large AMT-elevator and incredibly short fuselage it will be really tricky to fly.

But man really needs challenges. This might not fly at all, but I like building.

From aeromodelling perspective this was rather easy design. All structures are quite straightforward. Nothing extremely challenging.

These plans are available for free (yes, free) download at my webpage http://www.iwaru.fi/gluhareff.html

Tuomas




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MessagePosté le: 13/10/2012 19:01    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Hi Tuomas
Whoo, great project, I love the look [clap] and ailerons are original [good] I can't wait to see more [bave]
Your plans are very beautiful [clap] thank's for sharing



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MessagePosté le: 13/10/2012 19:05    Sujet du message: Build starts! Répondre en citant

And yes... today I started build.

I will start with elevator.

Tuomas




Everything starts with plans and pile of balsa.




Constructing tip of elevator.




Balsa doublers.







Trailing edge constructed from plywood and balsa.




Tip of elevator tapers agressively







Despite opening in leading edge I will leave this one piece for this phase.




Middle section sheeting and cap strips.
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MessagePosté le: 13/10/2012 20:41    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

[clap] [clap] [clap]

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MessagePosté le: 13/10/2012 22:44    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

[clap] sujet original, bon courage pour la suite .
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MessagePosté le: 14/10/2012 11:06    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Salut !

[clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]

Amicalement
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MessagePosté le: 14/10/2012 12:20    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Magnificent and original project ! Well done Tuomas !! [clap] [clap]


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Le planeur est le mariage réussi entre la science et la nature.

Ah, ces ailes en mouette...
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MessagePosté le: 14/10/2012 18:54    Sujet du message: Then towards fuselage Répondre en citant

Je vous remercie pour vos paroles encouring!

And then to today's dish, fuselage


First keel's and some formers & beginning of box structures


Then more box structures


And finally longerons.


This looks quite strange, like fish :)

Tuomas


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MessagePosté le: 14/10/2012 18:59    Sujet du message: Back to tail Répondre en citant

One interesting design element is all moving elevator. I wanted to keep elevator in one piece, just to keep it as light as possible. I ended up with rather interesting structure..


First brass tubes are aligned using plate and retainers. Then it is tack glued to plywood parts.


Now it is ready to be permanently glued.


GF strip, some epoxy


And plenty of compression

Tuomas
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MessagePosté le: 14/10/2012 19:00    Sujet du message: Then to rudder Répondre en citant

I normally draw interesting and fancy rudder structures and then I build something completely different..





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MessagePosté le: 21/10/2012 20:01    Sujet du message: Back to fuselage Répondre en citant

It's the building day again..

Tuomas
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Start by adding some planks. I used 2mm balsa with the intent to glass fuz from inside.


I have used table as jig for some time now, and it works rather well. One thing is to remember add secondary 3mm keel parts here.


Wing box parts


Last wing box parts.


Another view. It looks quite complicated, but in real life it is not.


Then to longerons.


Another view.
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MessagePosté le: 21/10/2012 20:10    Sujet du message: Then to wings. Répondre en citant

This wing has couple interesting features.

First - the airfoil is constantly changing. It starts with HQ 3,5-12 at root, then morphs to HQ 3,5-10 at midsection and then to HQ 3,0-9 at beginning of tip. Tip is almost flat.

Second - those jazzy ailerons...

Tuomas
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First I have to find all ribs. Some of the markings got lost at cutter and trying to 'feel' correct ribs is ... difficult. Luckily all ribs were present.


All ribs glued to place. Those aluminium bars are just weights to keep everything aligned.


Detail at aileron hinges. I am using brass pipe to align hinge parts.


Finally just an recap of all moving elevator hinge. Looks nice!
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MessagePosté le: 22/10/2012 06:14    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Hi Tuomas,
Nice work [clap] How will you make the trailing edge? straight or curve like the photos?



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MessagePosté le: 22/10/2012 21:29    Sujet du message: some historical content with surprise plane Répondre en citant

Hi,

my plan is to make straight trailing edge as in 3-view. But you can see curves in those pictures so if I would be making exact scale plane I would propably do curves.

Incidentally, there are 4 planes which are linked to mr. Adaridi.

M-3 - biplane glider, no plans found, only some really bad pictures. Design by Gluhareff's and mr. Adaridi.

S-22 - this plane. Design by Gluhareff's with 'help from Adaridi'.

Adaridi AD3 - this is actually 'light motorplane', a bit like motorized glider (12hp motor). There are some comments referring to it as having 'similar design' as S-22. Which is true to some extent, but not really. There are similar elements (like ailerons & amt-elevator). But everything else is different (wing platform, fuz, size, ...). Check it here http://www.ilmailumuseo.fi/index.php?page=adaridi . It has been preserved in Finnish aviation museum collection. Bad flier..

And finally fourth one, an plane with no name, so let's call it SK-24.

This SK-24 is extremely interesting as there are no surviving pictures but there is an build log (!!!) of that plane along with rudimentary drawings (!!!!). It was published in periodical magazine 'Suomen Kuvalehti' (SK for short, direct translation is Finnish Picture Magazine) during 1924 as an two part series. They published article describing 'how everyman can build own glider'. In real life two of these were built. Both crashed during maiden takeoff. One was built as an glider which they tried to horse-tow and second was built with motorcycle motor (18hp). There could be long discussion why this plane did not fly, but the drawings are such that I am quite certain that it really cannot fly :). Article has no journalist name, but it says 'that this article is based in explanations and drawings by aeronautical technician B. Adaridi'.

Why is this relevant in this context? Because that article describes how to build trailing edge which gives you identical grooves as in picture and as in Adaridi pictures. Trailing edge is simple 1mm piano wire which has been stiched to canvas covering wings. There is even some detail drawings of airfoils with that structure...

To get exact scale fidelity I could replicate that structure but I think that it is slightly too extreme to my taste. I have seen it couple times done in retroplane build logs, so it is quite doable.

Btw - it could be interesting if you can find some further information of mr. Adaridi's later history. He moved to France after 1925 and I have found some comments that he continued with aviation industry, but what role or what designs I have no clue. Died in Paris 1960.

Tuomas

ps : yes - I did have short building session today, tried to find suitable wing tubes, no luck. Have to go to shop real soon to continue..
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